From: Horkheimer (hork_at_execpc.com)
Date: 03/06/98
Message-ID: <3500715F.A176A7C3@execpc.com> Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 15:57:52 -0600 From: Horkheimer <hork_at_execpc.com> Subject: Re: Helios: response
Hello,
> I would like to ask all of you if you would please try to type in
> lines of somewhat less than 80 characters each. 70 is ideal. else I
> first have to format things to make them readable. thanks.
Do my messages cause this problem for you? I don't know right now how to check it
or fix it, and if I am not part of the problem, I rather not try to learn the
solution and waste my time, but if I am the problem I'll do my best. Just tell me
> > > If you feel this is a bash, please move down to the last paragraph.
> > > This will be the last time I bring this up on the list.
> > > I want you to know what has gone on between Mike and I.
> > > Everything I write here is true.
> > > I have come to bury Mike, not to bash him.
>
> > I understand.
>
> > > 1. There is no patent on Mike's DCB unit. [...]
>
> > That is my question, how can the government take a citizens private
> > invention and then classify it, so they can't even benefit from it.
> > I could see this happening during a war or something, but this I
> > guess was invented during peace-time and airship patents are
> > unfortunately not that important to national security. Heck, does
> > this classification of patents, actually happen.
>
> no it does not.
>
> I am presently, and until the end of march, working at GTE GSC
> (Government Systems Corporation), whose customers also have three
> letters in their names.
>
So this is a goverment owned company, what do they do?
> I had a long talk with a very nice man (who will hopefully be on this
> list soon) who has a lot to do with classified things and patents.
>
> if something is classified, it isn't patented. if something is
> patented, it isn't classified.
>
> if something is heavily classified =>you can get in trouble by talking
> about it<=. ^^^ ^^^ ^^^ ^^ ^^^^^^^ ^^ ^^^^^^^
> ^^^^^ ^^
>
You would have to sign you right of speech away, wouldn't you. I would just talk
about it, if it was my idea.
> > > 2. If you go to Mike's page, you will find a new product called a CAMBOT.
> > > This product appeared on his page just after his trip to Burbank a few
> > > months ago. This occured almost 2 years after I first told him
> > > about the STRATACAM. Mike insists that this is his idea, and that
> > > I stole it from him BEFORE I met him.
>
> > > I know it is irrational, but that's what he thinks.
>
> what mike has basically done is this: he doesn't listen to people who
> don't agree with him. he just classifies them as evil people who don't
> have to be paid attention to and goes on. he has been doing this for
> as long as he has been alive.
>
> if you do this long enough, you end up with a really interesting
> picture of the world.
Fine, but how did he learn all he did about this topic, before he was sort of
thought as one of the experts on the list from my point of view.Does he just
listen well, to what everyone else says.
> > You thought up the STRATACAM, Chris?
>
> chris talked about his ideas for flying camera platforms at a meeting
> at which both mike and I and several other people were present.
Okay.
> > > 3. Mike insisted that Helios never make an airship. He wanted us
> > > to raise money so he could build an airship. We explained to him
> > > that the co-op would build a demonstration unit for all of us to
> > > use. The design Mike gave us came with a $250,000 price tag.
>
> basically, mike is the smartest man in the world, see?
nice.
>
>
> > > When we discussed a realistic design at the board meeting and a realistic
> > > timetable he said "Well, maybey Bob and I will persue building
> > > our own ship instead"
I have seen the name Bob used before on this list, but I don't remeber who or why
he is?
Sincerely,
Donald Horkheimer