From: Horkheimer (hork_at_execpc.com)
Date: 03/06/98
Message-ID: <3500A631.B902FE24@execpc.com> Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 19:43:14 -0600 From: Horkheimer <hork_at_execpc.com> Subject: Re: Helios: response
Hello,
> >You would have to sign you right of speech away, wouldn't you. I would
> just talk
> >about it, if it was my idea.
> Actually, you have less right to free speech in America than you think.
> If you are exposed to or create classified documents, you first sign an
> agreement
> as a civilian that puts you on the same level as a member of the military.
> Under the UCMJ (Uniform Code of Military Justice), it is an act of treason
> to
> willingly divulge classified documents or information.
>
> The military does not have the same rules or rights as the general
> population.
> This isn't unfair, just a part of being able to kill people and break
> things.
> If you are going to go to war, you want an organized group under specific
> rules.
> The federal and state laws are much too confusing to use in a combat
> environment.
Give me liberty or give me death!
>Fine, but how did he learn all he did about this topic, before he was sort
> of
> >thought as one of the experts on the list from my point of view.Does he
> just
> >listen well, to what everyone else says.
> No one will dispute that Mike has some good ideas, or that he has thought
> about
> LTA for a good part of his life. He reads a lot, but at some point decided
> ha had learned
> enough. When I first got on the LTA list, I was also intimidated by his
> knowledge.
> Unfortunately, I believe reading and research are lifetime pursuits. As I
> began to learn more,
> I began to question some of the ideas we all believed because Mike told us
> to.
> I will agree with Josh on this one, Mike does not like contradiction. He
> feels it is
> an affront to his expertise for anyone to doubt his calculations or
> "proven" ideas.
Okay this is what I thought.
> >I have seen the name Bob used before on this list, but I don't remeber who
> or why
> >he is?
> Bob Ellingwood is Mike's business partner in LTAS and a former member of
> the Helios board.
> Once Mike became unreasonable, I began communicating through Bob to avoid
> direct contact
> with Mike.
Well what is Bob like, I don't remember hearing much from him.
Sincerely,
Donald Horkheimer